Andrea (00:00):

I’m Andrea Giles, and you’re listening to the Heal from Infidelity podcast,
episode number 191, Full Body Healing with Majo Torreli.

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(00:50):

Hello everybody. Welcome back to another episode. I have a guest today that
I’m really, really delighted to bring on to the podcast. Her name is Majo.
She lives in Spain, and I was so intrigued with her story of healing. I
felt so much truth in the words that she shared with me about her journey.
Very heart-centered person, heart-centered work, and I thought I need to
bring her on and let you learn from her. So Majo Torreli, welcome. Thank you
so much for being here, Majo. I would love for you to introduce yourself.
Let us know who you are, what you do. Go ahead and tell us about yourself.

Majo (01:28):

Hi, Andrea. Thank you so much for having me. So I am a somatic coach. I
work with women, helping them break out of their unhealthy relationship
patterns in love and rewire their relationship with themselves so that they
feel deep, self-love, confidence, worthiness, all of it from within.

Andrea (01:46):

Beautiful, beautiful. So usually it seems that in many of these fields that
we go into, we learned a thing or two from our own experience that led us
into doing more deep research, deep healing, deep things. Would you mind
sharing with my listeners a little bit more about your background? How did
you get into this?

Majo (02:08):

Yeah, of course. It’s actually super interwind with my personal life and my
personal story. So while I spent all of my twenties in back-to-back
relationships and while they look different on the outside, all of them
were really disempowering in some form. And the irony was that throughout
all of this time, and it’s a long time, 10 years, I was always working on
myself. I was doing all the therapy, all the mindset work, all the courses,
meditation, healthy lifestyle, I mean, you name it. And yet I kept repeating
these patterns that weren’t serving me in love. So it really made no sense
to me. And the tipping point was the last of these relationships, which
turned out to be really emotionally abusive. And it was like a time of deep
contrast in my life because literally the very same day that I formalized
this relationship was the day of my Oxford graduation.

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And I was graduating with distinction and had London a dream job in London
and had started this shiny new life in London. And it was really shocking
to have this contrast of all shiny things going out outside but in love. I
was feeling so, so disconnected and within myself and so powerless and
within myself, I was really anxious all the time and just out of myself. And
essentially with time, this relationship lasted a year and a half and post
breakup, I started regaining the pieces of myself. I regained my financial
freedom. He had managed that side and started just regaining my sense of
self bit by bit and followed a gut instinct. While I was in that
relationship, he didn’t allow me to join this course that I was interested
in. So as soon as we broke up, it was like, okay, I’m doing this. And I
followed this gut instinct and joined a course in somatic section
relationship coaching. Even though at the time I had no clue what somatic
meant. Now I know it means body-based. And it was incredible because in
less than one year of somatic coaching, I achieved what 10 years of therapy
couldn’t do for me.

Andrea (04:25):

Wow. Wow.

Majo (04:26):

Yeah. Finally broke patterns in love changed my whole life, and most
importantly, just rewired my relationship with myself. And for the first
time in my life, felt self-love and self-worth in my body. That’s what I
now help women do.

Andrea (04:41):

Amazing, amazing. So it sounds like, I don’t know if you felt this way, but
it can feel a little bit scary for, you’re clearly very smart, very
intelligent to drop out of your head and into your body and kind of
surrender to that. Did you struggle with that at all?

Majo (05:00):

Yeah, especially I had no clue. I had no clue that that was what you needed
to do in the first place. And I really, really struggled with it because I
had worked so much on it because I was like 10 years of knowing the self
what of love is intellectually and learning about it. So I just didn’t
capture in my mind this gap of like, oh, you actually have to feel it in
order for it to materialize in your life. And yeah, that’s the gap that
somatic coaching helped me fill, but it took me the 10 years of not getting
there and then finally starting Somali coaching.

Andrea (05:43):

How did you know, you said you kind of had a gut instinct to do that, but
you had had that before too. How did you know that something needed to give
something needed to change for you?

Majo (05:55):

Yeah, I think the way I felt, even though I tried it, even though I was
always working on myself, I always felt like this lingering anxiety. There
was nothing that worked for me, literally nothing. And it was really
exasperating. I did a lot of things, and yet I always kept on getting to
the point, maybe there’s something wrong with me if it’s not working with
any man, and if I end up in this very, very bad situations, I mean, it has
to be me. After we broke up, I mean after this started to crumble and thank
God it crumbled, it was like I was in a really, really low point. And that
was just like I realized, okay, I am making myself really small and I don’t
think this is just me. There must be something else that I’m not tapping
into yet.

Andrea (06:45):

Yep, yep. I love it because how easily we blame ourselves as if there’s
something wrong with us when it really is a matter of just giving our body
what it needs. Right.

Majo (06:58):

Yeah.

Andrea (07:00):

Okay. So you mentioned your own path of graduating from Oxford, obviously
very intelligent and help other intelligent women with this process too.
And I’m wondering if you could share what do you think the difference is
between that? You mentioned that you had the cognitive understanding of
self-worth, you knew it, you could probably rattle it off, it means this
and it means this, but you felt different. Can you share about your
experience with this and why you think this can be a plague for really high
achieving women? The difference between intellectually understanding
something and actually experiencing it in their body?

Majo (07:42):

Yeah, yeah, totally. The things that everything that you are, everything
that I am, everything, our emotional truth, our emotional beliefs, all of
them will say, okay, 90% of them at least, are actually stored in your
body, whereas only 10% are stored in your mind. So as a smart woman, what
we do is we try to cover it all, and this is when we go to all the
resources and tackle it all. But of course, because nobody ever teaches us
this, we don’t realize that we’re just working with this 10% that lives in
our minds and essentially leaving behind all of the 90% that we’re not
tapping into by not including the body in the healing conversation as well
as the nervous system. And essentially, it creates this gap where you just
are working with your conscious beliefs and some parts of you, but you are
just leaving behind most parts of you.

Andrea (08:36):

Well. So of course there’s going to be a big gap, right? And all the
unconscious that we are not even aware of. And what was your experience as
you started practicing the things that you were learning? Were you surprised
at what came through your body, what you learned from your body?

Majo (08:55):

Oh yeah. I mean, it’s amazing. It’s amazing. Once you start reconnecting,
it’s amazing how you just learn so much about how to do love in life in a
way that feels really aligned and true to you. And I think the first thing
that I learned is that all of these concepts about self-love and self-worth
and all of this, you cannot really tap into them and really have them
materialize in your life until you have a felt sense of safety in your body.
And that’s really something that I work with clients and it’s a game
changer. We often go into just develop self-work and all these things, and
it’s really, especially after you had experiences, tough experiences like
betrayal, infidelity, severe heartbreak, what you really need to focus on
is becoming the safest person felt sense of just safety. And I can be with
myself. I trust myself. I have this very basic safety.

Andrea (09:55):

And

Majo (09:56):

After that, I think that the sky is the limit.

Andrea (09:59):

Absolutely. And how we try to reverse that and try to control it and try to
almost contort ourselves into things that if we would slow down for a
minute, we could see what worked for us, what don’t work for us, but kind
of plowing right over it sometimes. Right. Yeah. You said something I think
that’s important. You said a felt sense of safety. Tell us the difference
for you and what you teach your clients about a felt sense of safety and
intellectually being safe, moving from this place of trying to control to
feel safe, to actually feeling safe.

Majo (10:37):

Yeah. Yeah, that’s a great question. And the thing is that there’s no way,
I don’t think that’s even a thing. There is no intellectual safety as such.
The only way to be in that state of safety is to somatically access it. The
only way, if you picture a ladder on a pool, that’s how I like to see the
nervous system, your state. And if you’re up touching the sky, you’re happy
and joyful and all of this. But if you’re just above the water, you’re in a
neutral state and it’s all good, and you can be safe in any of those
situations. But if you’re underwater in the ladder, then you’re essentially
just drowning. And what you need in that place is fresh air and to come up.
And the thing is that when you are drowning, there’s no way you can
intellectually tell your body. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So in a very literal
sense, you need to just learn, first of all, to identify your own nerve
system.

Andrea (11:40):

Responses

Majo (11:41):

And work with them and create your mini toolkit. And this is something I
help women do as well, so that you can regulate yourself and you can know
your own nervous system, speak its language so that you create this felt
sense of safety for yourself. Yeah. I don’t think there’s such a thing as,
I mean, you work cognitively with it in terms of I understand what it is,
but ultimately you access it somatically.

Andrea (12:05):

And where do you think that the balance can shift? I’m curious your
thoughts on this from consciously trying to run the whole show and just
avoid looking at it, avoid the healing, things like that, or avoid going
deeper into the body. But when you start learning this, some of the things
that I try to work with my clients with is using their conscious mind to
kind of lead that, your analogy of the pool to lead that part. Like, okay,
this is what’s going on. I got you, this is what we need right now. Tell me
your process, your thoughts on that, and then how you see that process of
instead of I’m here and I’m drowning, how can they get that cognitive brain
online to help to throw a floaty into the pool? Right. Floaty. Yeah.

Majo (12:53):

I love that question. And what comes to mind is, this is maybe one of the
simplest and one of my favorite somatic tools and how you can throw the
floaty. So you’ve probably heard sit with your feelings. And we always say
that sit with your feelings.

Andrea (13:08):

And

Majo (13:08):

How I like to take this deeper is yeah, sure. Sit with your feelings and
enter sort of a meditative state where your mind goes, okay, tightness in
my, I feel a tightness in my throat. And then you literally speak to it and
you go like, okay, tightness in my throat, I see you there, or I hear you.
And then you just wait for it and it will give you a response in neither
another sensation or an image or a color. And then you go like, oh yeah, I
hear that. And you can even ask it questions, what is it that you’re
wanting for me? What is it that you’re not wanting for me? And you
literally are, I mean, you’re using your cognitive side to hold a
conversation with your different body parts, and they literally give you
information, not in the sense of how we understand information,

Andrea (14:03):

But

Majo (14:04):

Images and sensations and maybe just words. And you just ride the wave and
dialogue with the different body parts as they speak to you. And then you
just can thank all those parts of you, let them know you’ll be back, and
you can end the meditation with a little journal and an integration.

Andrea (14:21):

So beautiful. I love it. I love it. Do you mind if I hop into another
question here?

(14:27):

Okay. So in my world, with lots of people who have experienced everybody,
it’s all infidelity, right? Some kind of deception, some kind of betrayal.
They will hear the words that they need to forgive and move on, let it go.
Sometimes they’re hearing it from their spouses, sometimes they’re hearing
it from well-meaning, friends, family, come on, it’s been long enough. When
are you going to let this go? Right? And I’m curious your thoughts on that.
It doesn’t work to have somebody tell you you need to forgive, right? But
I’m wondering what you think about that. How do you help your clients in
this space to just get to a place of peace?

Majo (15:07):

Yeah, absolutely. Having been there a totally, totally get it. And the
thing is that when you tell someone, forgive and forget, you are again
speaking to their mind. And a good analogy for this is if you were to tie
down a tiger mama and attack her cops, and she cannot defend them, so this
is the same obstacle, this is the same energy that gets stuck in your body
when you were in an abusive situation or in some sort of situation that
really hurt you, and were like, you didn’t have the space and the time to
defend yourself, not energy that you can just forgive and forget mentally
it’s energy that actually needs to complete the cycle. So I, I mean, I can
also share quickly a somatic tool for that, if that would be helpful.

Andrea (15:59):

Yeah, tell me. That would be great. But tell us more about completing this
cycle. Tell us more about that.

Majo (16:05):

Yeah, of course. So essentially all of it is live energy, and we tend to
think of anger and rage as something that you need to neutralize and
something that you need to just temper down. But in reality, it’s just
energy. It’s just emotion that if you actually don’t, and completing the
cycle just means letting it move through your body entirely. And there are
many, many ways to do this, but when you don’t, it’s energy that gets
trapped in your body, so you then get physically ill. It has to somehow get
complete, so your body will do it for you if you don’t do it for you. So if
you’re just in your mind being like, yeah, yeah, I’ll forgive and I’ll do
my best to forgive and forget, you’ll still have this sense of I didn’t
protect myself back then. I couldn’t defend myself back then, and those are
just energy blockages inside of you there will do you harm.

Andrea (16:58):

So yeah, I’d love to hear the somatic tool that you mentioned. How do you
move that through fully?

Majo (17:05):

Yeah, so this is one I adopted from Seth Lyon giving credit. He’s a somatic
trauma specialist, and it’s a really efficient tool, essentially, you just
also, you go to a safe space and to a meditative state, and you bring to
mind the person that hurt you. And first you picture them as in the purest
form, let’s say in the good purest form, connected to source energy if they
were a baby that works for you and see them floating out outside of you in
the universe. And then you picture the version of them that really, really
hurt you living inside of you how it is at the end of the day. And then you
just move back and forth visually between the two versions. And what you
want to do once you’ve differentiated them is to really, in your mind really
attack and full on attack in any way that feels good, the version of them
living inside of you. And you can scream, you can punch a pillow, you can,
whatever your body feels called to do, that’s like the tiger mama defending
her, and if any feelings of compassion or whatever arise, you just direct
them to the version of them living outside of you. And you just continue
doing this until you feel, and you will literally feel the energy like the
release,

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And you just see yourself standing on top of them, and then you can just
let them go and burn them, literally burn them in your imagination. They
are out of your system in a very symbolic and visceral way.

Andrea (18:46):

So powerful. So powerful. The imagery there is amazing, so powerful. First
of all, I’m thinking about the problems we have in society in thinking that
we need to be soft and we need to be all of those things. And I think just
that analogy of the baby cubs and going, no mama bear and letting ourselves
be the mama bear for ourselves. Right.

Majo (19:14):

Exactly.

Andrea (19:14):

Yeah. No, yes. That’s so powerful. Follow up question to that. I have a lot
of clients who are staying in their relationships that they want to make it
work. How do they allow themselves to go to this place, release that
energy, and then kind of reenter stay in the relationship? What does it
look like after that for them to have that experience? And then what happens
to the floating light, the light image of them? How does that integrate
back?

Majo (19:49):

Yeah, yeah, that’s a good one. Well, in that case, it’s already about
working on relationship repair. Of course, if your decision is still to be
in the relationship with this person, which is totally valid, then you
definitely need to work on, I mean, this is just one piece of the puzzle in
terms of letting out and completing the cycle of anger so that you can let
go of that resentment that you carry. And then is also assessing your
capacity and boundaries also in a very somatic way, to see if there’s
anything else that needs tweaking. In that sense, you need to really
understand what is your capacity in terms of like, okay, here is how I can
move on forward, and these are my new boundaries. And that is something
that after infidelity or after any difficult episode, you really need to
reevaluate again in a body way. So that would be my next step.

Andrea (20:46):

Okay. Okay. What I’m hearing there too is just the example of if we are
worried that our little cubs are going to get hurt again by the same
attacker, we’re going to stay away from the attacker. And I think it’s
similar that if we, knowing that the threat is under control, that the
person doing the attacking is changing from the inside out themselves so
that it no longer is a threat. And well, I see this a lot where my clients
will kind of hold on in their body, this feeling of threat, and sometimes
it is this work that you’re talking about of really needing to process it
and let it go. And sometimes it’s a combo of that and actually seeing that
the threat, it’s still a threat that there’s things that they’re seeing
that their body’s feeling that are saying, no, you’re not out of the woods
yet. And so yeah, I love the imagery of that, of letting go of all of that
inside of you while also staying awake and aware, right? Yeah, paying
attention. Would you add anything to that?

Majo (22:00):

Yeah, absolutely. I think that got up beautifully. And yeah, I would just
add that this is honestly, the place, if this is where you’re at, is the
place where you really need to drop into your body and where you really
need to access your nervous system. And that’s because you really need to
create first that sense of safety in yourself. Because often we go looking,
especially in a relationship with someone, and when we’ve had this dynamic,
it’s like we go ask for that safety, we outsource it, and it’s really
difficult and it really has to beginning in yourself first, and I would be
my recommendation.

Andrea (22:41):

Yep. I love it. Thank you. Tell me this, how do you start to trust your
intuition? How do you recommend trusting your intuition when maybe we have
shut it off for a very long time, especially when we’re making these big
decisions about staying or going, or in cases of dating new people after
leaving a relationship, how do you get back into your intuition?

Majo (23:05):

Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally get that. I’ve been there so many times and the
things that as a culture in general, we tend to think of intuition as this
on and off switch, and we’re just like, oh, I’m in the middle of the date
or with this new person or in a relationship, and I just need the
information now, so I’ll just switch it. And that’s really not how the body
works and all how we digest the food we eat in time. It’s the same with the
emotional experiences we have. We also need time to digest them. So in
general, this is true, and it is even more true after we’ve had relational
trauma. We really, really need to give our bodies that space and time to
sit with our relational dynamics and what we’re receiving from someone, how
we’re feeling in the presence of someone, and really stay with it for a
period of time and really trust that your body will, it’s very wise and it
will definitely give you those nudges. But again, the thing is that when we
are drowning in the pool, we tend to push for that intuition and it’s like,
where is it? Why don’t I have the answer yet? And it’s like when you’re
drowning, which is often the case in these situations, you don’t need to
reach for intuition. You need safety again, so that once you have it, you
can stay with it longer. And then the intuition naturally it comes. It
always does.

Andrea (24:28):

Yep, yep, yep. Yeah. Something that I often say is that after infidelity,
many of my clients get really caught up on the decision of do I stay? Do I
go, I’m so stuck in this decision, and what I say is that staying or going
is beside the point that what the point is is getting back to you and
growing, getting back to who you are. That healing, that kind of
surrendering to that, it really is a surrender and going, when you start
tapping into that and taking the focus off of the other person, you
naturally come to the answer and you naturally know, and you don’t have to
fight for it, you don’t have to grasp for it. It just arrives. It’s just
there. And our body will say, yes, yes, this is correct. Right?

Majo (25:13):

Yes, yes. I still agree with that. And it just like this shift is so
important. You are already under so much pressure and you’re adding
pressure, you’re adding to the sense of unsafety. If you push yourself for
an answer right now as opposed to really just trusting that I really know.
I mean, I will have the perfect answer in the perfect time.

Andrea (25:36):

I love that. Yes. So much kinder to our minds, to our bodies. So much more
gentle. Right? Absolutely. So tell me about, you talk about taking
accountability for your own role in the relationships that you experienced
before you really understood the somatic work. How did you come to that?
How did you come to a place of being able to take responsibility? What did
you learn about yourself?

Majo (25:59):

Yeah, that definitely was a very important part of my journey of breaking
my own patterns, and essentially it’s because we often go similar to how
our unconscious, emotional, our emotional truths are unconscious. It’s the
exact same with love, the exact same thing. So essentially what love is is
just this mix of emotional experiences you’ve had throughout your whole
life since your parents up until your most recent relationships, and again,
this emotional experiences, they all live in your body, so that’s why love
is so largely unconscious, and that’s why your choices are largely
unconscious as well. So we often go, these are the traits that I like in
someone, or This is what I mentally, this is what I go for, and yet that’s
often not how it works, right?

Andrea (26:50):

Just

Majo (26:51):

Because again, the information is unconscious. So what I started doing is
what I call desire mapping and instead of thinking it in a very mental way
and mental characteristics, really getting into the feelings of what it is
that you usually go for and that you usually are attracted to in a very
honest and in a very non-shaming way, because it’s very often the case that
our core wounds are also our core desires. That’s just our minds being
brilliant and our nervous systems being really good at healing, actually at
looking towards healing and just getting very honest in this journey of
desire mapping and seeing like, oh, maybe I am attracted to controlling
man. I am attracted to men who abandon me. Once you see it, really, you
can’t unsee it, but you need to see it on a somatic level.

Andrea (27:47):

And what changes when we see it,

Majo (27:49):

Everything, it’s really, it’s everything in the sense that it’s not like
automatic. It’s not like, okay, that will never happen again. I mean, of
course it takes time and you might attract remnants of those type of
dynamics, and maybe similar people can still show up in your life, but it
really changes how you respond and how you yourself in those situations and
how you’re better equipped to not only handle them, but just to identify in
the first place and just how you are not reacting anymore from this
unconscious place of an autopilot.

Andrea (28:29):

For me, in doing my own work around this leading a marriage and just some
of the work I’ve done, even in the past 10 years or so, it’s in recognizing
how I had an unconscious belief that I needed a protector. I needed
somebody that could offer some kind of protection, almost like a child,
almost like I needed. I was almost like a child that needed somebody to
look out for me, and I’ve done so much work around this to understand where
that came from, and it makes perfect sense. It makes perfect sense. When I
look at my life and the things that have happened in my life, it like, yep,
totally makes logical sense, but I’ve done that work to really feel that
and to feel that little girl who just wants someone to take care of her and
to tell her she’s okay, and tell her she’s good and things like that, and
now it’s been so wonderful and so healing to go, oh, I actually can take
care of myself and give myself that, and then I can welcome people in who
want to join me here, but I don’t need it from them for me to feel okay.

(29:39):

Right.

Majo (29:40):

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely.

Andrea (29:42):

Yeah, it’s quite liberating when we can spot the story, spot it, and then
decide what we want to do with it.

Majo (29:49):

It is liberating. Yeah, because just like that switch from unconsciously
doing things to just like, because you still have, I mean, this is
something that I like to tell women. You might still have challenging things
in terms of what you are attracted to and what you desire, but that’s a
great normal, and that’s still something. It’s not about shaming that, and
it’s not about repressing that. It’s really about just resurfacing it,
because once it’s surface, it’s like you integrate it and you just work
with it. Just like you work with your inner child and you give a lot of
love. You need to give all your parts love, even the challenging ones and
the ones that might still be attracted towards certain dynamics.

Andrea (30:35):

Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Slowing that all down and seeing what’s there.
Yeah. I’m wondering if you have any other, I am thinking about so many of
the women that we’re speaking to, right? They’re high achievers, they’re
often busy. A lot of things going on, and we’re all looking for a quick
fix. We all want to know what can work quickly. Do I have to spend an hour
meditating every day? What am I signing up for here? So my question for you
is, what are techniques that you either have practiced yourself or that you
teach that don’t need to take a lot of time, but that can help us drop into
our body?

Majo (31:16):

Yeah. I think I really dislike sitting for an hour and meditate. Me too. Me
too. It might not work at all for you.

Andrea (31:26):

Yes, fine. Yeah. I get too impatient. Yep. Yeah,

Majo (31:30):

Throw it out the window.

Andrea (31:33):

Beautiful. Best news. Yes. Yeah.

Majo (31:37):

My work is actually all about tailoring it to what really suits you, and
for instance, the two tools that I mentioned, I mean, you can do them in a
matter of really minutes, and it’s really about, I like to think of it as
getting used to tending to yourself, caring for yourself in a almost moment
by moment basis. This is really how I see intimacy with yourself and really
tuning into what your nervous system is saying almost on the spot. I mean,
of course, that’s impossible to do a hundred percent of the time, but try
to do it throughout the day. So actually what I tend to teach is more small
practices, a couple of minutes here and there throughout your day where you
can come back to yourself and regulate, and that can literally be as simple
as wrap. I’m a freezer, for example. My response is to freeze when I’m
triggered or activated. So if I’m home, I know when I freeze, I can
literally just go to my bed and grab a blanket and cocoon and just cuddle
myself for a couple of minutes, and I know that the warmth and the
self-containment does it for me.

(32:46):

Learn about your nervous system and learn what responses and what tools
work for you.

Andrea (32:54):

By practicing them, right. Practice and try ’em out. It makes me think, I
have a three-year-old daughter, and what if we could have the patience for
our bodies as we do for little toddlers who literally, one minute she’s
great, and the next minute she’s not where she’s having a minute and what
happened? What happened between 30 seconds ago and right now, and rather
than being frustrated or upset or whatever, just what do you need? What do
you need? What’s going on? Not making her wrong for having the experience
that she’s having as a toddler that doesn’t know how to regulate. Right?

Majo (33:33):

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Totally. The more you see your body like this and
learn to speak its love language.

Andrea (33:41):

Yes, yes.

Majo (33:42):

The more you do this, the more you respond with, oh, it’s safe to be me.
It’s safe to take up space. It’s just safe to exist in the world.

Andrea (33:51):

Yeah. So beautiful. And what a gift for so many of us that were maybe even
taught messages that counter that it’s not safe, that it’s not safe to take
up space, that your voice isn’t welcome, that kind of thing. So beautiful.
Beautiful. Well, thank you so much. I want to ask you if there’s anything
else that you would like to share with my listeners before we go, any
messages, any, and then I want you to share where my people can learn more
from you. We’ll have all of mojo’s information linked in the notes, the
show notes, but what else would you like to share with us? What truths
would you like to share? And then tell us how people can find you.

Majo (34:35):

Yeah, of course. I think, and this is very much linked to what you were
saying about the messages we receive, and I think especially after we’ve
been infidelity and heartbreak and these very heavy traumatic experiences,
there’s a lot of why am I not there yet? Why haven’t I feel and why? And we
beat ourselves up, and what I really wish someone had told me back then is
now my favorite way to deify. There’s a lot of shame that we carry around
these experiences and just literally just sit with your body and tell
yourself in the kindest way possible. Wow. It makes so much sense that you
are responding in this way after everything you’ve been through. That makes
so much sense, and this little way to the shame-ify is so powerful, and I
would just add to that, if really you feel like you’ve been on a healing
journey forever and it cannot figure it out why you’re not there yet, it’s
very likely that the missing piece in that journey is your body and your
nervous system, and it wants to be integrated into that conversation.

Andrea (35:47):

And there’s no shortcut, right? There’s no way around it. There’s no way
around it. There’s no intellectual anything that will solve for going and
being with our body, letting our body speak, letting our body heal. Right,

Majo (36:03):

Right. Absolutely.

Andrea (36:05):

Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful. Thank you so much for that. How can people
learn more from you?

Majo (36:10):

Thank you, Andrea. So I’m on Instagram @shesembodied, and my website is
also shesembodied.com.

Andrea (36:18):

I love it. Beautiful. Beautiful. Okay. We’ll have that in the notes and
thank you so much. Beautiful conversation. Thank you for sharing your
story. I think so many of my listeners are going to resonate with the whole
thing of what is wrong, what’s wrong with bait, right? And then going,
nothing. Nothing’s wrong with you. Nothing at all. You’re not broken. You
just didn’t have the tools, right? You didn’t know. And now I’m so grateful
to live in this time where we have so much more access to these things that
help us actually heal, not just putting a Band-Aid on it, not just putting
quick fixes, but actually going in.

Majo (36:58):

For real

Andrea (36:58):

And giving ourselves that gift. So thank you so much for being here, and I
know everybody will love hearing from you.

Majo (37:06):

Thank you for having them. It’s been my pleasure.

Andrea (37:13):

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